Sunday, January 16, 2011

I like tough guys, I like my gay friends, closeted people are losers, and I dont get Scientology

My main question on Scientology.. and there are A LOT of questions I could have but really dont care to spend the energy to answer, is.. I dont get how Scientologys' big celebrities are all gay but Scientology is anti gay???
So what is it? Like Will Smith, Tom Cruise and John Travolta are all known homosexuals to MANY people... none of which I wish were.. but are Scientologists just like "Listen this is a good money making opportunity for you if you let us say youre a member?" or are they like a villainous cult and theyve got pictures of all of them having gay sex and they threatened these guys with exposure if they didnt join?? or is it just a mutually beneficial money making venture, like they will provide them with "cover" and press if they say theyre a member???? I dont get it. This all came up because a friend was telling me about Will Smith and his bf HEAVY D?!.... EEEEWWW ... and how Jada is a dyke.... DUH... but ewww! I have just NEVER liked Will Smith.. I think I dont like gays who make babies, I think it goes against what weve been put here for, which is NON REGENERATIVE SUPPORT TO HUMANITY. Adopting is good, procreation is iffy....
I dont have the interest to get deep into this conversation... I just dont get any of it.... but what I CAN SAY, is that Im surprised that I feel I sorta get WHY theyre all closeted. Working on movies is like being on a construction set, a blue collar HIVE, and its VERY homophobic and if youre the gay, YOU SUCK and youre CAUSING PROBLEMS BY EXISTING... so I think its probably better to SHUT UP and pretend like youre not just so youre not sand in the ointment. Also Im sure you get a CHECK and youre like "Hmmmmm. I think I'll ride this straight thing out for a while" ... is it WRONG?... YES, but it must be weird, because then you realize youre making people HAPPY by being a FANTASY for them and people have JOBS because of YOU and there is a lot riding on you NOT to be gay and perhaps you should try and figure out a way not to make issue of your IDENTITY and say its just your sexual interests and thats private for everyone, which I agree on, BUT lets be honest, gayness is more then sexual interest. Its a CULTURAL IDENTITY. You cant say people are born gay and disagree with this statement because if we're born gay we all share similar formative experiences which separate us from non gay people and thus form a culture. Therefore being gay is not a sexual identity but a cultural one...
Of course its wrong to be closeted because if nobody was there would not be an issue BUT... Its more complex then you think... Not everyone is out to change the world like me and my friends. I think some people wanna believe it doesnt matter and perhaps think it SHOULDNT be an issue, so they dont make it an issue. People are afraid to disturb the balance EVEN IF IT IS NOT IN THEIR FAVOR... and I GUESS I have to respect their DECISIONS as people are entitled to their own opinions BUT I dont have to respect the PEOPLE in the closet because they have no balls and theyre self hating liars. How much do you LOVE IT when closeted people say they DONT hate themselves?! They ALWAYS DO and I just wanna yell "SHUT THE FUCK UP FAGGOT. YOURE A PUSSY, AND PLEASE STOP LYING TO ME. IM SOMEONE WHO YOU SHOULD RESPECT BECAUSE I HAD THE BALLS TO STAND UP FOR MYSELF AND COME OUT! DO NOT LIE TO ME BECAUSE AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED IM YOURE SUPERIOR!".. its that whole "If I can get you to believe it maybe I will too" thing. I feel bad for them, and I think kids HANG THEMSELVES because of them, but what I can say is I know its not as easy as I think and its easy for people to trick themselves into believing there are a lot of reasons NOT to come out, and there ARENT, but I think it could be easily construed that there are.... Desperation skews better judgement often and easily.
People are weird....
I like my gay acting friends, they have big balls and are TOUGH. I like tough guys. I want to send out a pat on the back to all my out gay friends, its easy to forget about how much work we had and HAVE to put in to being comfortable in our own skin! Closted guys should be force feminized in baby doll dresses.... and cant read my blog!

7 comments:

raul1188 said...

word.
you go girl, hah.

gavin said...

"if nobody was [closeted] there would not be an issue."

I disagree. Gays will always be a minority. Even if we were all out, the majority would hold it against us because we're different and they're disgusted by what we like to do.

Humans are competitive and self-righteous. Anything that is different from what a person does himself is usually BAD in his mind. Most people are unwilling to see our differences as neutral or good.

We cling to ANY reason to feel superior over others, even if we're just fabricating reasons. Straight people will always feel what they do is superior and relate to /identify with and respect each other more easily.

So I think homophobia will always be a factor, even if all gays were out of the closet. We can only hope to reduce it or eliminate it from social leadership.

I respect and appreciate openly gay actors much more than the closet cases. I can't imagine the kind of hiding, self-denial and repression that guys like Zac Efron or Taylor Lautner put themselves through as being worth the money or fame.

That said, I don't blame them for staying in the closet if they can pass for straight and are suitable for romantic, leading roles.

I blame a fucked-up, ignorant, homophobic world that would hold their private sexuality against them and inappropriately expects movie stars to be privately available for romance and match their bigoted gender expectations.

I would never hate the closeted homos MORE than the ocean of bigots who make sexuality an issue. THEY'RE the problem, they show themselves UNWILLING to respect gays and the sex we have as equal to their own time and again, so I really don't blame the Ricky Martins or Zac Efrons for not letting the Asshole Majority interfere with their opportunities in life.

Rupert Everrett is a handsome guy who is suitable for leading man/straight roles, but coming out probably cost him a fortune, a career, his dreams and opportunities. He thinks so. Richard Chamberlain still advises such actors to stay in the closet if they want equal career opportunities.

So I don't blame guys like them for being closeted, but I do feel sorry for them and I respect openly gay actors more.

What I really don't respect are the performers incapable of projecting anything but an extreme gay stereotype who pathetically try to pass themselves off as straight or avoid comment (Clay Aiken, Rosie O'Donnell, Sean Hayes, Liberace, Tim Curry).

Like, why is Tim Curry still in the closet in this day and age? Admitting he's gay wouldn't affect his career or the kinds of roles he's always gotten. He would go up in popularity, I think.

I guess I don't blame the performers who have a true chance to succeed at what the public unfairly expects from them for staying in the closet IF that's what the public expects from them.

But when the public LIKES and REWARDS openly gay actors suitable for roles they DON'T romantically objectify, it makes no sense to pretend. Tim Curry would remain popular, just like Nathan Lane or Ian McKellan because they're not going for the "Heartthrob" or "macho action hero" roles.

gavin said...

"if nobody was [closeted] there would not be an issue."

I disagree. Gays will always be a minority. Even if we were all out, the majority would hold it against us because we're different and they're disgusted by what we like to do.

Humans are competitive and self-righteous. Anything that is different from what a person does himself is usually BAD in his mind. Most people are unwilling to see our differences as neutral or good.

We cling to ANY reason to feel superior over others, even if we're just fabricating reasons. Straight people will always feel what they do is superior and relate to /identify with and respect each other more easily.

So I think homophobia will always be a factor, even if all gays were out of the closet. We can only hope to reduce it or eliminate it from social leadership.

gavin said...

I respect and appreciate openly gay actors much more than the closet cases. I can't imagine the kind of hiding, self-denial and repression that guys like Zac Efron or Taylor Lautner put themselves through as being worth the money or fame.

That said, I don't blame them for staying in the closet if they can pass for straight and are suitable for romantic, leading roles.

I blame a fucked-up, ignorant, homophobic world that would hold their private sexuality against them and inappropriately expects movie stars to be privately available for romance and match their bigoted gender expectations.

I would never hate the closeted homos MORE than the ocean of bigots who make sexuality an issue. THEY'RE the problem, they show themselves UNWILLING to respect gays and the sex we have as equal to their own time and again, so I really don't blame the Ricky Martins or Zac Efrons for not letting the Asshole Majority interfere with their opportunities in life.

Rupert Everrett is a handsome guy who is suitable for leading man/straight roles, but coming out probably cost him a fortune, a career, his dreams and opportunities. He thinks so. Richard Chamberlain still advises such actors to stay in the closet if they want equal career opportunities.

So I don't blame guys like them for being closeted, but I do feel sorry for them and I respect openly gay actors more.

What I really don't respect are the performers incapable of projecting anything but an extreme gay stereotype who pathetically try to pass themselves off as straight or avoid comment (Clay Aiken, Rosie O'Donnell, Sean Hayes, Liberace, Tim Curry).

Like, why is Tim Curry still in the closet in this day and age? Admitting he's gay wouldn't affect his career or the kinds of roles he's always gotten. He would go up in popularity, I think.

I guess I don't blame the performers who have a true chance to succeed at what the public unfairly expects from them for staying in the closet IF that's what the public expects from them.

But when the public LIKES and REWARDS openly gay actors suitable for roles they DON'T romantically objectify, it makes no sense to pretend. Tim Curry would remain popular, just like Nathan Lane or Ian McKellan because they're not going for the "Heartthrob" or "macho action hero" roles.

gavin said...

I respect and appreciate openly gay actors much more than the closet cases. I can't imagine the kind of hiding, self-denial and repression that guys like Zac Efron or Taylor Lautner put themselves through as being worth the money or fame.

That said, I don't blame them for staying in the closet if they can pass for straight and are suitable for romantic, leading roles.

I blame a fucked-up, ignorant, homophobic world that would hold their private sexuality against them and inappropriately expects movie stars to be privately available for romance and match their bigoted gender expectations.

I would never hate the closeted homos MORE than the ocean of bigots who make sexuality an issue. THEY'RE the wrongdoers, they show themselves UNWILLING to respect gays and the sex we have as equal to their own time and again, so I really don't blame the Ricky Martins or Zac Efrons for not letting the Asshole Majority interfere with their opportunities in life.

Rupert Everrett is a handsome guy who is suitable for leading man/straight roles, but coming out probably cost him a fortune, a career, his dreams and opportunities. He thinks so. Richard Chamberlain still advises such actors to stay in the closet if they want equal career opportunities.

So I don't blame guys like them for being closeted, but I do feel sorry for them and I respect openly gay actors more.

What I really don't respect are the performers incapable of projecting anything but an extreme gay stereotype who pathetically try to pass themselves off as straight or avoid comment (Clay Aiken, Rosie O'Donnell, Sean Hayes, Liberace, Tim Curry).

Like, why is Tim Curry still in the closet in this day and age? Admitting he's gay wouldn't affect his career or the kinds of roles he's always gotten. He would go up in popularity, I think.

Even a homophobic public likes and rewards openly gay actors like Nathan Lane and Ian McKellan because they're not going for the "heartthrob" or "macho action hero" roles, where all the bigoted expectations come into play. So Curry would be safe to come out.

JamTheCat said...

I agree, David, but I also understand the closeting aspect since I lived most of my life in a state where you could go to jail for being gay...until the Supreme Court told them, "Uh, no, you can't do that." In 2003!

You see, I was assaulted by some guys, many (many) years ago in Texas, and tried to get the cops to do something about it. But what did the cops say? I'd be just as likely to go to jail because I was queer. And I knew just enough about the sodomy laws to believe them (but not enough to realize they were full of shit). So I got myself patched up and just let it go.

Anyway, crap like that -- it marks you. Whether you like it or not. It took me years of living in LA to get to where I could be comfortable with my biological makeup.

And now? Now I can get into a nasty online fight with Amazon over censoring my books and not care if it impacts my job. In fact, my publisher (who's based in Texas) wanted me to go back to being a Texas faggot so I wouldn't rock the boat, and I just plain couldn't.

So sometimes people have a good reason for the closet, and they'll get past it, eventually. And one of these decades we hopefully will reach the point where it just doesn't fucking matter, anymore. But until that day comes, I can't condemn someone for keeping hidden.

Unless they're a two-faced lying politician who's voting to hurt us while getting his jollies in secret in airport restrooms. Then I say kick the SOB out into the open.

gavin said...

Wow, I apologize for the long-winded, duplicate posts.

I need to shut the fuck up more!